Lee S 10:28 Sat Mar 19
Video Ref / Appeal System
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Never thought I would say this, but after the last games I can't help thinking that it's probably about time that this comes in. Too many decisions going for the big teams.
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Takashi Miike
10:29 Sat Mar 19
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but that will stop the cheating, they don't want that
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ACIrons
10:32 Sat Mar 19
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Too many decisions going for the big teams, really?
lol
Money talks, TV money talks, they want these so-called 'big' teams to win. No coincidence that Liverpool, Man U and now Chelsea have all got something from games in the last 3 weeks which are absolutely scandalous. Bribes or incompetence, you decide.
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Takashi Miike
10:35 Sat Mar 19
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a display like madley's is beyond incompetence. there was another agenda, what the fuck it was is beyond me but I've never seen a referee as bad as that over ninety minutes. maybe alf buksh at a push
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Lee S
10:40 Sat Mar 19
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Problem is that he is not an isolated example.
Michael Oliver seems to be the best referee in the league by a mile but even he gets a few things wrong.
The speed of the game and cheating wankers makes it too tricky to decide.
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Ron Eff
10:40 Sat Mar 19
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I'm massively (MASSIVELY) anti it.
But that referee performance needs looking at. It was beyond a joke.
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Fluke
10:40 Sat Mar 19
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id like Julian dicks to take penalty practise with his eye balls
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ACIrons
10:41 Sat Mar 19
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Remember the Chelsea v Everton game earlier this season, that ridiculous offside goal given to Chelsea in about the 9th minute of fictitious injury time. Think Abramovich visits the ref's at HT at Stamford Bridge and promises a nice little holiday on his yacht or something if they guarantee Chelsea won't lose
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Dolittle
10:41 Sat Mar 19
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It would be easy to stop the blatent diving where no touch was made with video evidence. Yellow for simulation straight red for simulation in the box. Its cheating and they don't seem to want to stamp it out.
Its a cheaters charter. Its worth the risk as today showed. Make it too risky. They take away points for financial irregularities or admin errors but cheating on the pitch is fine
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Fluke
10:42 Sat Mar 19
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It wasn't just that though, the little decisions, they got every one, sometimes we would even touch there player and they got the free kick, cress well was wrestled to the ground twice without getting a free kick, he's a proper joke of a ref. But i hope that we get the luck we are due in the cup replay
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DJH
10:44 Sat Mar 19
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The video ref may have got the penalty overturned but one problem I have is how do you correct a decision where the opposite has happened, in that the referee played on but it was shown to be a penalty without possibly unnecessary stopping the game?
If it ever came that such a system was in place I believe referees will be more inclined to give decisions knowing they can be overturned in kind of in the same way more LBW's seem to be given in cricket now with the 3rd umpire in place, now that might mean more things that would have been ignored will be penalised but a consequence I am positive what will happen is the spectacle of a flowing match will be a thing of the past with all the breaks in play to deal with these reviews.
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ACIrons
10:51 Sat Mar 19
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Matches are always delayed these days though with the constant diving cheats. I don't think it'd break it up any more DJH. Maybe make it so if a player appeals then an incident has to be reviewed. Frivolous appeals should be punished some how, yellow card maybe and yes of course if something is spotted by the video which the ref missed it should be highlighted and awarded as well.
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Stubbo
11:05 Sat Mar 19
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I'm anti an appeals process but pro-decision review for:
- Penalty Awards
- Goals Scored
- Straight Red Cards
The whole point should be to ensure that.
1. Goals scored should stand
2. Penalties awarded are valid
3. Players that are dismissed are done so correctly.
At the moment referees basically spend most of the time ducking these big decisions a lot of the time, then when they do they so often get them wrong.
The three above review circumstances would:
1. Promote positive refereeing (refs can give what they think are penalties even if not totally sure, as if they're not they will get rescinded).
2. Stop offside goals standing and the clangers like the Randolph foul in the cup.
3. Ensure that when a player is dismissed outright there wasn't some horrific judgement that sullies the rest of the game.
Like in cricket where more LBWs have been given to players padding up as umpires know if they make a howler it would be overturned, the above would get us a lot closer to a game that is fairly judged with the big decisions having correct outcomes.
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ACIrons
11:10 Sat Mar 19
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I'd go for that Stubbo, very well thought out and very workable, sounds far too sensible for the football authorities to even consider implementing though.
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Ron Eff
11:20 Sat Mar 19
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I actually think it's very simple. The fourth official already has access to a screen. Make him useful, if the ref nauses something, the fourth official gets in his ear and says "you got that one wrong chief, change your decision".
Job done.
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Brucies_Star_Prize
11:26 Sat Mar 19
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Ron Eff 11:20 Sat Mar 1
It really is that simple. An official or team of officials, in a video room, in constant communication with the ref.
There are so many decision they could correct almost immediately. It wouldn't necessarily be perfect, but it would improve the decision making process.
It would have been so easy for them to correct the decision today.
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Alfie
11:27 Sat Mar 19
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For years in Lithuania they have utilised dusty bin - the robot light entertainment celebrity from the 1980's - to analyse replay and adjudicate on contentious decisions at both football and shinty stick matches ( the national game).
His onboard computer is housed in his massive nose, whilst his decision making circuitry resides within his cavernous bin innards , beneath his comically rising lid.
He has NEVER got a decision wrong and i would have thought with the wealth and treasure of the premier league they could amply afford to bring him back to robot ref our games.
In 1987 he was caught in stratford sauna chuffing bugle off a brasses cocxyx but that aside he has been a model robot and clean living citizen
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Ron Eff
11:29 Sat Mar 19
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Yep. I don't want timely decision making. If simple decisions are wrong, let the fourth official tell him within 10 seconds. Make him do something.
Never let Madeley ref in the prem again, also.
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bruuuno
11:32 Sat Mar 19
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I don't think the old bill would allow it
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Takashi Miike
11:37 Sat Mar 19
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his brother's a ref too in the football league. I bet his fucking mum and dad are refs too. fucking mong cunts
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